Turin shroud 'older than thought' Tests in concluded the cloth was a medieval "hoax" The Shroud of Turin is much older than suggested by radiocarbon dating carried out in the s, according to a new study in a peer-reviewed journal. A research paper published in Thermochimica Acta suggests the shroud is between 1, and 3, years old.
The author dismisses carbon dating tests which concluded that the linen sheet was a medieval fake. The shroud, which bears the faint image of a blood-covered man, is believed by some to be Christ's burial cloth. The radiocarbon sample has completely different chemical properties than the main part of the shroud relic Raymond Rogers Raymond Rogers says his research and chemical tests show the material used in the radiocarbon analysis was cut from a medieval patch woven into the shroud to repair fire damage.
It was this material that was responsible for an invalid date being assigned to the original shroud cloth, he argues. Fire damage He says he was originally dubious of untested claims that the sample was taken from a re-weave. The 4m-long linen sheet was damaged in several fires since its existence was first recorded in France in , including a church blaze in It is said to have been restored by nuns who patched the holes and stitched the shroud to a reinforcing material known as the Holland cloth.
The shroud first surfaced in France in "This stuff was manipulated - it was coloured on purpose. In addition to the discovery of dye, microchemical tests - which use tiny quantities of materials - provided a way to date the shroud. These tests revealed the presence of a chemical called vanillin in the radiocarbon sample and in the Holland cloth, but not the rest of the shroud. Vanillin is produced by the thermal decomposition of lignin, a chemical compound found in plant material such as flax.
Levels of vanillin in material such as linen fall over time. This ruled it out as the possible burial cloth that wrapped the body of Christ. The shroud is stored at the cathedral of Turin, Italy That led to the then Cardinal of Turin, Anastasio Alberto Ballestrero, admitting the garment was a hoax.
But [the new research] is saying that they dated the rewoven area. However, the shroud itself is actually much older. But, says Mr Minor, "the church is very hesitant, very reluctant for that to be done, because they've been given so many conflicting opinions". What is your reaction to the new evidence? Do you believe the Turin shroud is Christ's burial cloth or do you think it is a hoax?
You sent us your comments. I think it would be better if it remained a mystery Benjamin, Pittsburgh The new research is quite fascinating. However, I wonder why nobody considered the patch idea earlier.
And even though I want to believe that it belonged to Jesus, I think it would be better if it remained a mystery. There are always two sides to every story. This debate will only be solved after UFOs and the Kennedy assassination. The human nature and nature of humanity that allows us as a mammal to have such relics to debate over is the true miracle.
Richard, Edmonton, Canada While I find the discussion on this article, and its age, interesting historically, it has no effect on my faith. Trusting that Jesus was the Son of God come to earth to take on a human body, and then crucified taking on the sins of the world, to return from the dead and then to be resurrected to heaven is enough. God does nothing without reason or plan, and I can't fathom His leaving something confusing like this.
Unfortunately, some people seem to need or want more. The Bible isn't enough for them. Even if it is proven that the shroud dates to c. It simply proves that you have a year-old burial shroud. Historically interesting, yes, and relatively unique, but the connection between this cloth and Jesus Christ is stretching the imagination so far as to be ridiculous. Only the faithful will believe it anyway, and those people who need their faith to be bolstered by something as trivial as this need to question why they believe in the first place.
The altars of Catholic Europe are full of the interred bones of saints who, if their existence is to be believed, must have had 7 legs and 97 ribs. Frank Wognum, Duffort, France I think that regardless of whether it is or is not Christ's burial cloth, testing should still be allowed to take place.
They only way any truth can be gained from the shroud is through testing it's age again - to get some measure of certainty. David Appleyard, Halifax, UK Tradition has often been confirmed by scientific investigation Nancy Robinson, Pittsburgh The Shroud is one of the most intriguing antiquities in the world.
I am excited by this new information. Tradition has often been confirmed by scientific investigation. Maybe, some day, we'll find that the 'story' was true! Instead of wasting resources trying to prove what will not add any value to the body of Christ, I feel such resources should be channelled to orphanages and homes where it will help humanity to the glory of God.
Patrick, Nigeria The shroud of Turin is a masterpiece whether or not it is the image of Christ. I work with fibres and dyes, and the beauty and skill of the image from so long ago is a wonder to behold.
How did it happen chemically? Treasure it, study it, and enjoy it as any great masterpiece. While science continues to disprove and now prove the Shroud of Turin to be older than the previous results, people's believes get stronger each day, by absorbing science findings as part of the foundation of their religion.
Claudia Costa, Fairfax Virginia I believe the most interesting fact concerning the Turin Shroud is that it bears blood stains. If so, this would show that Jesus was not actually dead when he was wrapped in it, and that Christian theology has been based on a false premise, and it would enable us to analyse his DNA and identify his descendants. J S Walker I would like to look at who sponsored the research - but even if this evidence is correct, it in no way substantiates that the image is that of Jesus.
The fact that it appears to be an imprint of a person who died in a similar fashion is not conclusive - thousands died in this unimaginable way around the same period. But as a medical and historical artefact it is no less fascinating. The church probably possesses many other such fakes created by medieval superstition. The church does not need such relics, they belong in a museum. John, London UK Personally, I do believe the shroud is Christ's burial cloth, and the new proper dating concludes that it does indeed fall within the correct time frame.
What should be noted here is that even if we find undeniable evidence that this is Christ's burial shroud there will be always be people that will still vehemently deny this fact.
The reasons are many but it mostly comes down to a problem of the heart and choosing to believe or not to believe in the claims that Christ made concerning His identity and the works and miracles of His earthly ministry.
This denial has been going on for years the shroud being dated correctly will unfortunately not change that. Rob, Toronto, Canada I think it could well be Christ's burial cloth, and it should be tested properly now to establish this once and for all before the fabric becomes too fragile.
Surely this would be in the interests of Christians worldwide and not just those adhering to the Roman Catholic faith. Joan Whyte, Mintlaw, Aberdeenshire The new evidence is interesting in what it may say about the cloth, but as a Christian I've never been surprised at any test showing that the Turin shroud was not Christ's burial cloth.
Gareth Griffith, Cheltenham, UK Those who believe will not be convinced otherwise and vice versa Carolina, Netherlands I don't see what difference it makes. Those who believe will not be convinced otherwise and vice versa. In my opinion, it is unlikely that it is the shroud, like the lance and the grail and all the other things associated with Jesus. It will never be proven one way or another, as there is no DNA to measure it against.